May 19, 2021

We Talk About Aliens! feat. Khoo Hsu Chuang and Julian Ng | Cincai² Bocai

We Talk About Aliens! feat. Khoo Hsu Chuang and Julian Ng |  Cincai² Bocai

When a trio of ex-colleagues haven't caught up in a while, all bets are off! They explore the big questions: are aliens among us? UFOs are just a matter of fact now? What about cryptocurrency? And how would you sort out the climate crisis? Ezra catches up with old radio comrades Khoo Hsu Chuang and Julian Ng on a new segment: Cincai² Bocai.


Khoo Hsu Chuang is a financial journalist with over two decades of experience. He’s worked in KL, Singapore, Tokyo, Hong Kong and London covering financial and capital markets for The Edge, Bloomberg and Thomson-Reuters in print, newswire, Internet and digital TV broadcast formats. Chuang has spent the last decade grilling CEOs, policymakers, academics and politicians as a co-host of The Morning Run on BFM 89.9, a business and finance-oriented radio station and as a Contributing Editor and Video Presenter with The Edge Media Group in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Currently, he is the driving force behind Do More, a long-form video podcast series that explores entrepreneurship, investing and work-life balance. 

Julian Ng has 20 years’ experience in the investment banking and fund management industries with companies such as CIMB, J.P. Morgan and Public Mutual. As a producer and presenter on BFM 89.9, he covered business issues and financial stories and how it impacted ordinary folks. He now serves as the co-founder of Akru, a digital platform that provides automated, algorithm-driven financial planning services with little to no human supervision.

Check out Julian’s previous appearance on the podcast:
How Much Money Is Enough? feat. Julian Ng | EZ On The Money #1

Episode Structure

  • 00:00 - Ezra monologue/intro
  • 08:00 - Throwback to radio days and unexplained events in Malaysia
  • 12:20 - UFO sightings are real!
  • 16:10 - The Great Reset
  • 17:04 - Riding on the hype of cryptocurrencies
  • 21:58 -  Have you taken out your EPF so you can live your f*cking life? Carpe diem
  • 24:54 - The not-so-amazing movie experts on "Matrix", "Pulp Fiction", "Reservoir Dogs"... and tipping culture
  • 28:51 - "Politics and generosity are two words that don't belong in the same phrase”
  • 29:52 - Chuang’s unpopular opinion on Greta Thunberg
  • 33:00 - "World Earth Day is a load of bollocks."
  • 36:16 - Is there an Asian solution to the climate crisis
  • 42:10 - Does growing old mean achieving "Old People's Rights (OPR)"?
  • 52:42 - Forced vs voluntary philanthropy through taxing the rich
  • 1:04:30 - What constitutes success? Instagram and aliens
  • 1:07:15 - The Education Industrial Complex
  • 1:07:53 - Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin and the college admissions scandal
  • 1:15:51 - Analysts targeting America to be normalised by Q3 of 2021; what's the impact on other countries?
  • 1:19:39 - Pharmaceutical companies' bad track record and audience perceptions.
  • 1:23:38 - Digital passport and human tracking
  • 1:30:53 - Comparing the speed of evolution, the future of the human brain and technology | TOILET BREAK
  • 1:37:37 - Pharmaceutical companies' irresponsible product marketing with government backing them up
  • 1:43:03 - Circling back to Elon Musk, Greta Thunberg, cryptocurrencies, and big pharma.
  • 1:45:40 - "We can be happy with the girl we love, a small house, two children who are healthy, and a simple lifestyle."
  • 1:50:51 - Ezra outro and credits


Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs | 60 Minutes

Naval Pilot's Shocking UFO Encounter | History

President Obama replying to question by Reggie Watts on UFOs | The Late Late Show

Reservoir Dogs - Tipping scene

Operation Varsity Blues: The College Admissions Scandal | Netflix

Neuralink: Elon Musk's entire brain chip presentation in 14 minutes (supercut)

Full House - Jesse meets Becky scene

Greta Thunberg in opening track of the album, The 1975… by The 1975

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